The Curator Podcast – Episode 6: Kenny Leckie from Carnivores
This podcast is now four weeks old. Which is weird. I feel like I’ve been doing it for a lot longer.
Of course it probably doesn’t seem like I’ve been doing it for very long when you listen to it but these things take time. I’m learning as I go. Trial by fire ‘n all that.
On this week’s episode I have Paisley’s second favourite son (after Paolo Nutini, I guess) and St. Mirren enthusiast Kenny Leckie. He also plays in a wee band called Carnivores. They’re pretty good.
When I told my friend and fellow Carnivores fan that I had interviewed Kenny his immediate reaction was, did you ask him where they fuck they’ve been? And I did. Sort of.
We covered a lot of stuff:
- Starting out playing gigs at the tender age of 13.
- Record label interest at a young age and how that affected him.
- Playing 100 shows in a year whilst working full time.
- How the small break Carnivores have had has helped him to feel normal.
- But also how being in a band is really not normal.
- Touring in cars and how being on the road makes you better.
- The eclectic nature of Carnivores’ sound.
- Why he dislikes guitar solos.
- Moving away from political songwriting.
- How older songs were informed by political apathy and how that’s changed in Scotland with the indy ref and general election.
- Joe Strummer and Billy Bragg on being political artists and that Elvis Costello has more to say on politics than Billy Bragg.
- Having a political hangover and how politicians must have issues.
- Worst gigs –dodgy venues, fights and a crazy night in Oban.
- Smalltown America records.
- Not turning into a cliché.
As ever we spoke about influential songwriters, and covered a bunch of diverse stuff like Blur, Weezer, Radiohead, Wilco, Dillinger Escape Plan, Elvis Costello and The Beatles.
I honestly could have talked with Kenny for hours. It’s often difficult for me to judge how much of myself I should have in these podcasts, but when I listen back I’m usually always happy at how much space the interviewee has to speak. Kenny had a lot to say about music and politics, a lotof which I agreed with.
It’s an insightful and intelligent interview and I hope you guys enjoy it as much as I did.
At some point during the interview I seemed to lose the ability to speak properly. It’s hard to regulate the accent and Scottishisms when you’re chatting to someone who’s prone to the same thing. I’ll be less mumble-y in the future.
Intro: Voodoo Puppets – Electric Chair Blues (used under CC licence, you can check it out here).
Carnivores – Let’s Get Metaphysical,
Carnivores – Watching Fireworks,
Carnivores – James Maynard Keynes.
All of which can be found on the Carnivores album ‘Let’s Get Metaphysical’ which is out now on Smalltown America.
You can buy Carnivores’ latest album on stunning pink vinyl over here.
The band are also on tour this summer:
July 22: Edinburgh Mash House
July 24: Glasgow Audio
July 28: Tuts Midnight Show
July 30: Belfast BWNN
July 31: Derry STA Studio
Aug 01: Portrush Atlantic
Aug 02: Paisley Bungalow
Photo by Gobo Photography.
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